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![]() Advanced Member ![]() Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 7-June 05 From: Athens~Patra Member No.: 21 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
Since I consider myself to be among those who believe that the best way to learn sth is through practice I'm about to present what someone will be needing to know to survive in greece!!
Station #1 is the morning! -Yaaaawn (Yaaaawn) -mornin' (Kalimera OR 'mera) -Where's the COFEE? (Pou einai o KAFES?) -In the CUPBOARD (sto NTOULAPI) -Do we have any TOILET PAPER?(exoume KWLOXARTO?) -Yes, there's no NEED to go to the supermarket(Nai, den yparxei ANAGI na pame sto supermarket) -Where are my CIGARETTES?(pou einai ta TSIGARA mou?) -XA XA sou TELEIWSAN!!(XA XA you're FRESH OUT!!! OR XA XA they're FINISHED) -SHIT!(SKATA!) -MATE, why don't we go out for a cofee, and you can get some from the ROAD...(re MAL _AKA den pame gia kana kafe kai perneis ston DROMO...)(please ommit the underscore in the previous sentence!!) -OK!(OK!) Next will follow the time spent while driving to the cafeteria(a very all-time classic scenery if I may say so myself ![]() ![]() -------------------- [center]"Death is the great equalizer. This in fact proves that the grim reaper is a communist" by Anonymous
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![]() Dr. Frank-N-Furter ![]() Group: Private Members Posts: 1042 Joined: 8-June 05 From: Behind your back... Member No.: 29 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
Hahahaha looool (Hahahaha ti mal_kas!!)
-------------------- I'm so cool that when I go to sleep sheep count me...
We enter this world naked, screaming, and covered in blood...the fun doesn't have to end there... |
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![]() Pink Panther ![]() Group: Elite Members Posts: 1786 Joined: 9-August 05 From: Nuevo, California, USA Member No.: 165 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
Very nice ... more please ... every day sayings are very helpful Efcharisto
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![]() Lifetime commited ![]() Group: Elite Members Posts: 1370 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Athens, Greece Member No.: 11 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
Very good DarkRaven!
![]() -------------------- Imagination sets the spirit free,
Into distant lands of fantasy, Close your eyes and you will see, within your mind there, lies the key. |
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![]() Dr. Frank-N-Furter ![]() Group: Private Members Posts: 1042 Joined: 8-June 05 From: Behind your back... Member No.: 29 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
Also a really important lesson in greek language, typical for almost every greek:
- What time is it? (Ti ora eenai -You jerk, did you have to wake me at this time? (Re mal_ka, giati me sikoses teteea ora) -------------------- I'm so cool that when I go to sleep sheep count me...
We enter this world naked, screaming, and covered in blood...the fun doesn't have to end there... |
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![]() Pink Panther ![]() Group: Elite Members Posts: 1786 Joined: 9-August 05 From: Nuevo, California, USA Member No.: 165 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
May I please have lesson #2 ... maybe an afternoon session or evening ... just like DarkRavens morning routine please?
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![]() ex - Member Staff ![]() Group: ![]() Posts: 8117 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Athens, Greece Member No.: 5 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
gaiduri means donkey
alogo means horse skilos means dog gata means cat -------------------- |
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![]() ex - Member Staff ![]() Group: ![]() Posts: 8117 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Athens, Greece Member No.: 5 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
More:
Kokino is red prasino is green kitrino is yellow ble is blue gri is gray mavro is black aspro is white portokali is orange -------------------- |
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![]() ex - Member Staff ![]() Group: ![]() Posts: 8117 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Athens, Greece Member No.: 5 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
neo means new
patata means poato domata means tomato krasi means wine -------------------- |
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![]() Newbie ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 19 Joined: 7-July 05 Member No.: 115 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
I add more!
tsai means tes pagomeno tsai means ice tea gala means milk zachari means sugar thelo na paragilo means i want to order -------------------- FRAPE FOR ALL OF YOU!
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Advanced Member ![]() Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 28-August 05 Member No.: 230 ![]() |
Well, I'll have to learn greek anyway, so please keep 'em coming!
How about some basic grammar? How do I make present or past tense? What about your alphabet? How are your letters pronounced? |
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![]() Lifetime commited ![]() Group: Elite Members Posts: 1370 Joined: 3-June 05 From: Athens, Greece Member No.: 11 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
Greek alphabet
Α α - Alpha Β β - Beta Γ γ - Gamma Δ δ - Delta Ε ε - Epsilon Ζ ζ - Zeta Η η - Eta Θ θ - Theta Ι ι - Iota Κ κ - Kappa Λ λ - Lambda Μ μ - Mu Ν ν - Nu Ξ ξ - Xi Ο ο - Omicron Π π - Pi Ρ ρ - Rho Σ σ - Sigma Τ τ - Tau Υ υ - Upsilon Φ φ - Phi Χ χ - Chi Ψ ψ - Psi Ω ω - Omega Letter Name & Sound Modern Greek pronunciation Classic Greek Pronunciation (Attic) 1 Alpha [a], as in "father". Same as [a] in Spanish and Italian. Phonetically, this sound is: open, central, and unrounded. As in Modern Greek 2 Beta [v], as in "vet"; a voiced labiodental fricative. , as in "bet"; a voiced bilabial plosive. 3 [B]Gamma [gh], a sound that does not exist in English. If followed by the sound [u] then it sounds almost like the initial sound in "woman", but with the back of the tongue touching more to the back (soft) palate. To pronounce [gha], try to isolate "w" from "what" without rounding your lips, and then say [a]. In Castilian Spanish this sound exists in "amiga". Same is true for [gho]: try eliminating the [u] sound from "water". (C. Spanish: "amigo".) On the other hand, due to a phonetic phenomenon called palatalization, [ghe] sounds a bit like "ye" in "yes", and [ghi] sounds a bit like "yi" in "yield". Phonetically, gamma is a voiced velar fricative. (Its palatalized version is a voiced palatal fricative.) [g], as in "got"; a voiced velar plosive. 4 Delta [th], as in "this"; a voiced dental fricative. [d], as in "do"; a voiced alveolar plosive. 5 Epsilon [e] as in "pet", except that the [e] in "pet" (and in most other English words) is lax, while in Greek it is tense. As in Modern Greek 6 Zeta [z], as in "zone", a voiced alveolar fricative. Actually, the remark for sigma (see below) applies to zeta as well (it is shifted a bit towards [Z], as in "pleasure"). [zd], as in "Mazda". Also: [z], and even: [dz]. 7 Eta [i], as in "meet", but shorter, not so long. This is one of the three [i] in the Greek alphabet; they all have identical pronunciation. The reason for this redundancy has to do with Classic Greek, where they were not redundant. long open mid-[e], as in "thread" (but long). 8 Theta [th], as in "think"; a voiceless dental fricative. In Castilian Spanish: "zorro". [th], as in "top", but more aspirated. 9 Iota [i], exactly like eta (see above). The name of the letter is pronounced "yota" in Modern Greek. (the reason for the y-sound in front of the letter's name is due to phonetic transformation of [io] into [yo]). As in Modern Greek 10 Kappa [k], as in "pack". Notice that in English [k] is aspirated if it is at the beginning of a word; Greek makes no such distinction. When followed by the vowel [e] it is pronounced nearly as in "kettle", while when followed by [i] it is pronounced nearly as in "kill". For the exact pronunciation in the last two cases, please check the page on palatalization. Phonetically, it is a voiceless velar plosive. (Its palatalized version is a voiceless palatal plosive.) As in Modern Greek 11 Lambda [l] as in "lap". When followed by the vowed [i] it becomes palatalized, turning to a sound that does not exist in English (check the page on palatalization). The name of the letter is pronounced "lamtha" ( is eliminated because it is difficult to pronounce it between [m] and [th]). A voiced alveolar lateral approximant. As in Modern Greek 12 [B]Mu [m], as in "map"; a voiced bilabial nasal. Notice that the name of the letter is pronounced "mi" (mee), not "mew" as in American English. As in Modern Greek 13 Nu [n], as in "noble"; a voiced alveolar nasal. When followed by the vowed [i] it becomes palatalized, turning to a sound that does not exist in English (but exists in Spanish; check the page on palatalization). Notice that the name of the letter is pronounced "ni" (nee), not "new" as in American English. As in Modern Greek 14 Ksi [ks] as in "fox". Contrary to the English "x", the letter ksi does not change pronunciation at the beginning of a word (it does not become a [z]; Greeks have no trouble starting a word with [k]+[s]). Do not put any aspiration between [k] and [s] when pronouncing this letter. As in Modern Greek 15 Omicron [o] as in "hop", except that the [o] in "hop" (and in most other English words) is lax, while in Greek it is tense. Same like [o] in "got" the way it is pronounced in British English. A mid-close back rounded vowel. As in Modern Greek 16 Pi [p], as in "top"; a voiceless bilabial plosive. Notice that in English [p] is aspirated if it is at the beginning of a word; Greek makes no such distinction. As in Modern Greek 17 Rho [rh], a sound that does not exist in English (but exists in Scottish). Sounds very much like the Italian, or Russian [r], or the Spanish [r] in "caro". (Spanish speakers: in Greek there is no difference in how long you trill your rho; better to make it like in "caro" than like in "carro".) Phonetically, it is a voiced alveolar trill. Probably as in Modern Greek. Word-initially: aspirated: [hr] 18 Sigma [s], as is "soap"; a voiceless alveolar fricative. Actually, if you listen carefully to native Greek speakers, it sounds a bit between [s] and [sh] (probably because there is no [sh] in Greek, so the sound is somewhat shifted in the phonological space). However, it is much closer to [s], rather than [sh], and every Greek speaker would swear they pronounce it exactly like the English [s], unless forced to admit the difference by looking at spectrograms. This is the way "s" is pronounced in Castilian Spanish (as opposed to Latin American Spanish). Notice that the second way of writing the lower case sigma is used exclusively when the letter appears at the end of a word (there is only one capital form); this rule has no exceptions. Probably as in Modern Greek 19 Tau [t], as in "pot"; a voiceless alveolar plosive. Notice that in English [t] is aspirated if it is at the beginning of a word; Greek makes no such distinction. As in Modern Greek 20 Upsilon [i], exactly like eta and iota (see above). The name of the letter is pronounced [ipsilon] (ee-psee-lon), not "yupsilon" as it is called in American English. Rounded [i], as in French "une". 21 Phi [f] as in "fat"; a voiceless labiodental fricative. [ph], as in "pit", but more aspirated. 22 Chi [ch], a sound that does not exist in English (but exists in Scottish, as in "loch"; German: "Bach"; Spanish: "Jorge"). When followed by vowels [e] or [i] it is pronounced nearly as in German "ich". For the exact pronunciation in this case, please check the page on palatalization. Phonetically, it is a voiceless velar fricative. (Its palatalized version is a voiceless palatal fricative.) [kh], as in "cut", but more aspirated. 23 Psi [ps] as in "lopsided". Contrary to English, the sound of the letter does not change at the beginning of a word (it does not become a [s]; Greeks have no trouble starting a word with [p]+[s]). For example, in the word psychologia (psychology) the initial [p] sound is not omitted. Do not put any aspiration between [p] and [s] when pronouncing this letter. As in Modern Greek 24 Omega [o], exactly like omicron. (Once again, the reason for the redundancy is to be found in Classic Greek.) Long open mid-back [o], as in "law". -------------------- Imagination sets the spirit free,
Into distant lands of fantasy, Close your eyes and you will see, within your mind there, lies the key. |
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Advanced Member ![]() Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 28-August 05 Member No.: 230 ![]() |
Is it possible that you do not have a vocal "u" in your language?
Your alphabet is in many ways similar to Serbian, which is not surprising considering that a Greek invented our letters. BTW, should your nick be read as "nin"? |
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![]() Forum junkie ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 568 Joined: 25-August 05 From: Athens Hellas Member No.: 208 Zodiac Sign: ![]() Gender: ![]() ![]() |
-------------------- Θέλει αρετή και τόλμη η ελευθερία. (Ανδρέας Κάλβος)
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